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Thursday
Aug282008

imperfect parenting - forgiveness

Imperfect Parenting Blog Series CD 2 - Track 4 (Post #10)

The more I know, the less I understand
All the things I thought I knew, I’m learning again
I’ve been trying to get down
To the heart of the matter
But my will gets weak
And my thoughts seem to scatter
But I think it’s about forgiveness


These are the lyrics from “Heart of the Matter” by Don Henley (and most recently covered by the amazing India.Arie).

 

These words beautifully capture my feelings about forgiveness. As a researcher, I’m certain that forgiveness is essential to living with courage, compassion, and connection. It came up across the interviews as critical to authentic living and parenting. But, the more I know about forgiveness, the less I understand.

When I taped the lecture in April (the CD that many of you are listening to), I tried to be really honest about my struggle with forgiveness. On the CD, I explain that, as a researcher, I know that forgiveness is important, but as a person on the same journey as everyone else, I’m not willing to stand in front of people and tell them that they should practice forgiveness. I talk about how arrogant it feels to tell people to do that when my own experiences of forgiveness have been limited – I haven’t survived the traumas that many people have had to survive.

I’m also very honest about how difficult forgiveness has been and continues to be for me. Why? Because practicing forgiveness means letting go of self-righteous anger, blame, and resentment. That’s hard. The combination of self-righteous anger, blame, and resentment is one of my favorites. Umm. Umm. Umm. Drink it up! Unfortunately, I think it’s toxic and eats you alive from the inside. It might go down like a milkshake, but it burns up your insides like battery acid.

A good friend who attended the lecture in April, called me the next day and said, “You might have to edit the forgiveness part of the CD. You went a little crazy.” I was so nervous that I had no idea what I had said. When I asked her, she paused then said, “Well, there was the part when you said that telling people to forgive can be arrogant. Then you said that in our culture, we have a hard time of letting go when we really want to kick someone’s ass and they actually deserve to have their ass kicked. You also said that it’s almost like forgiveness is un-American.”

Believe it or not, I didn’t care. That was the most honest, authentic way I could talk about forgiveness. I’ve spent a decade interviewing people who have survived violence and trauma that I can’t even understand. I’m not going to sing the praises of forgiveness like it’s easy OR natural OR required.

In July, I ran a small workshop with 10 women. I talked about forgiveness in the same way that I always do – I know it’s important, I’m trying to understand it, and I think it might mean something different for all of us. A woman in the group raised her hand and said, “You might be the only mental health professional I’ve heard who didn’t preach about forgiveness with certainty and, more importantly, one of the only ones who didn’t tell me that I can’t heal until I totally forgive. Thank you.”

Then, she told the group that  her son was killed on 9/11. He was very young and had recently finished college. He was killed when the first tower collapsed.

She was amazing. She taught me so much about forgiveness, hope, and resilience. She also helped confirm my suspicions - certainty about forgiveness can be a dangerous and hurtful thing.

At our core, we are more the same than we are different. Or experiences with hurt and forgiveness may vary, but we all struggle. It's important to be aware of difference, but it's dangerous to start ranking trauma (who is hurting more . . . who should have an easier time with forgiveness). When we start thinking, "Hmm . . . what's worse, an affair or losing a parent in an accident or having a parent who was distant or having a child who was hurt" - we move away from connection and toward comparison. We start hearing the shame tapes that say, "I shouldn't complain - look how much worse she has it." Or, "I'm so alone, my situation is so much harder."  No one can heal from that lonely place.

Here’s a popular definition of forgiveness that I've used in my lectures. I don’t really agree with all of it:

“Interpersonal forgiveness is a willingness to abandon one’s right to resentment, negative judgment, and indifferent behavior toward one who unjustly injured us, while fostering undeserved qualities of compassion, generosity, and even love toward him or her." (Dr. Robert D. Enright, author of “Forgiveness is a Choice”).

I’ve been sifting through my data and I’m not sure that forgiving means the same for everyone and I also question the requirements of fostering compassion, generosity, and love toward the person who hurt us.

On the other hand, I see absolutely truth and grace in the definition given by Archbishop Desmond Tutu (Chairperson of South Africa’s Truth and Reconciliation Commission). He says,

To forgive is not just to be altruistic. It is the best form of self-interest. It is also a process that does not exclude hatred and anger. These emotions are all part of being human. You should never hate yourself for hating others who do terrible things: the depth of your love is shown by the extent of your anger.

However, when I talk of forgiveness I mean the belief that you can come out the other side a better person. A better person than the one being consumed by anger and hatred.

Remaining in that state locks you in a state of victimhood, making you almost dependent on the perpetrator. If you can find it in yourself to forgive then you are no longer chained to the perpetrator. You can move on, and you can even help the perpetrator to become a better person too.
(Read more here).

I’ve also learned so much from The Forgiveness Project.

From a parenting perspective, I do think it’s essential that we teach our children the dangers of self-righteous anger, blame, and resentment. Of course, like every other guidepost in this series, we have to believe it and practice it first. Damn it. 

Our children need to see us practicing forgiveness and I think it’s essential that we let them watch us struggle with letting go of anger, blame, and resentment. On several occasions, I’ve told Ellen, “So-and-so made me so mad and I don’t want to get over it because she was wrong. It feels good to be right, even when it’s keeping me angry and tired.”  Watching us struggle gives them permission to struggle. Talking openly about the difficulty of forgiveness is an invitation to them to talk openly to us.


And, in parenting, isn’t struggling together and talking about it, “the heart of the matter?”

What do you think? What have your experiences with forgiveness taught you?

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    I can choose never to interact with him ever again, because my forgiving doesn't necessarily mean that he has learned anything.

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"However, when I talk of forgiveness I mean the belief that you can come out the other side a better person. A better person than the one being consumed by anger and hatred.

Remaining in that state locks you in a state of victimhood, making you almost dependent on the perpetrator. If you can find it in yourself to forgive then you are no longer chained to the perpetrator. You can move on, and you can even help the perpetrator to become a better person too."


I think this is the key. You are so right, forgiveness is often used as a weapon pointed at the victim by well meaning professionals, especially if there is a religious element involved. It's a tough, tough subject - and it does lead to those comparison games that bog us down in which trauma was worse and who is recovering "better".

I think often forgiveness is asked of us by those external to the conflict, and much too quickly. Forgiveness without any expression of genuine remorse from the perpetrator of the hurt or before anger has been thoroughly processed is just counter-productive. Asking our kids to forgive a hurt they've experienced when the person who hurt them has no intention of saying "I'm sorry" and before their anger has been allowed to run its course is dangerous. It's just another way of avoiding and masking unpleasant feelings and doing the "be happy" dance.

But teaching them to eventually let go, even when remorse isn't forthcoming, is a healthy thing. Teaching them to channel their anger into appropriate advocacy when true injustice is the issue is empowering. And - if we have experienced it ourselves - teaching them to unclench their fists and hold out their hands for the grace that is available can be miraculous.

Honesty about our own struggles and the tender holding of theirs is really all we can give them in the end.
08.28.2008 | Unregistered CommenterRenae C
I needed this. I love your picture up at the top there. Great hat!
08.28.2008 | Unregistered Commentererinn
How have I never heard of The Forgiveness Project before? This is amazing. I've only read one of the stories so far and I'm all teary eyed. It is SO HARD to forgive for me too. When something hits me so hard that I actually need to make a conscious effort to forgive, that's the time that I don't want to. I want to hang on to that hurt, like I earned it for getting hurt in the first place.

I think I'm getting better, but I'm curious as to what you feel about something I have been experiencing with someone close to me. The Repeat Offender™. He's an alcoholic.

My walls go up so quickly when someone I've been hurt by, and forgiven, hurts me again. This particular person used to always be sorry, but now it's turned into "well this is who I am and you should be used to it by now."

How do we forgive those who don't want to be forgiven, but instead just... tolerated? What if you don't want to forgive or tolerate them any more? Is that cruel?
08.28.2008 | Unregistered CommenterKrystyn
p.s. Sorry if that's a bit off topic... I know it's not about parenting but the parts about forgiveness not being the same for everyone, or a requirement necessarily... it hit home today.
08.28.2008 | Unregistered CommenterKrystyn
"My walls go up so quickly when someone I've been hurt by, and forgiven, hurts me again. This particular person used to always be sorry, but now it's turned into "well this is who I am and you should be used to it by now. How do we forgive those who don't want to be forgiven, but instead just... tolerated? What if you don't want to forgive or tolerate them any more? Is that cruel?"

I think setting and holding boundaries is essential to authentic, compassionate living and very much relates to this topic of forgiveness. I'm not sure we can forgive someone who doesn't believe they've hurt us or doesn't want/need to be forgiven. In my own experiences, I've had to think about forgiving myself for subjecting myself to hurtful behavior. Sometimes the person we betray and need to forgive is us. I think setting boundaries and holding people (including ourselves) accountable is an important act of self-compassion.
08.28.2008 | Registered CommenterBrené Brown
Hi Brene, found you via Superhero Andrea and love your blog. I am not sure to what extend I can comment because there is so much complexity and food for thought in your entries.

This post reminds me of something my mother once said when I asked her what she thought was my best trait: "You don't bear grudges" she replied. Does this mean I forgive easily? I am not sure, is it even the same thing? I can totally jump on the train of self righteous behavior, to the point where I know someone is about to make a mistake (like when driving) and I take pleasure in honking at them and making angry gestures!

But it's true, I generally don't bear grudges against people who have treated me unfairly, or hurt me. Sure, I get angry, disappointed and upset but never for long. Why? Because of empathy. Eventually I look at the situation from THEIR point of view, and sometimes all this means is that I accept that not all of us act from the same sets of values. I don't know why I do this but it's something I have always done, sooner or later I imagine myself in their shoes and suddenly I cannot be angry any more. What this means in reality is that I don't bear grudges but at the same time I will distance myself from people whose sets of values do not align with mine. Mind you, like you I have not experienced the great traumas that some of us have to deal with and therefore I cannot say whether this "live and let live" attitude would still serve me if anyone ever harmed a loved one, for instance.

So I guess what I am trying to say is that true forgiveness requires empathy, and this is not always easy in a society that, in my view, has become quite self-absorbed and unable to look past its own hurts and inner voids. But that's another topic altogether!

Thanks for this very interesting post!

Kerstin
08.28.2008 | Unregistered CommenterKerstin
Here are some things I have learned about forgiveness for me:

1) When I forgive it is for me.
2) I don't forget because forgetting means I don't get to learn.
3) Whatever I am forgiving is not "Okay" (as in, "Oh, that's okay..."), it matters and that's why forgiveness is called for.
4) I can choose never to interact with that-person-I've-just-forgiven ever again, because my forgiving doesn't necessarily mean that they have learned anything.
5) They don't need to know, have to know, or sometimes get to know that I have forgiven them.
08.28.2008 | Unregistered CommenterWanda
Wanda - can I post your rules on my wall? I love them! You've nailed it.
08.28.2008 | Unregistered CommenterRenae C
I'm with Renae! Love what you shared Wanda - thank you!
08.28.2008 | Registered CommenterBrené Brown
@Brene: "In my own experiences, I've had to think about forgiving myself for subjecting myself to hurtful behavior. Sometimes the person we betray and need to forgive is us."

That's it exactly. I can actually hear myself saying to him, as I have many times, "I'm sorry that I didn't see who you were. I'm sorry I let myself believe you might change,"

I'm not apologizing to him though. I'm apologizing to myself. I need to own my mistakes -- and forgive myself for making them. And then? STOP MAKING THEM. (smile)


@Wanda: "Here are some things I have learned about forgiveness for me..."

These are JUST what I needed to read. I wish you could know how much this mantra will help me improve my life in coming weeks. Thanks, stranger!
08.29.2008 | Unregistered Commenterkrystyn
I was shocked last night to find myself angry and resentful about a person I thought I had forgiven decades ago! My anger flashed like a forest fire and stunned me with its force. The object of my anger was someone who had emotionally hurt three innocent (former) children whom I love.

Now I must review my forgiveness and understanding of the larger past situations. I guess we are never done as long as we have feelings.

Comments would be welcome. Insight needed.
08.29.2008 | Unregistered CommenterB.
I agree - Wanda - those are GREAT!

I am a private reading tutor, and last year I felt completely taken advantage of by one of my students' parents. I was lied to and then not paid. I was LIVID. This ate at me for days. How could someone do this? I finally had to forgive/let go so that I could move on and quit fueling my own fire of anger.

I want to be able to teach my girls forgiveness of others and letting go of unhealthy anger. At the same time I want to practice and teach the ability to forgive yourself. I seem to have a harder time with forgiving myself. Just this year I have finally forgiven myself for a mistake I made 13 years ago.
08.29.2008 | Unregistered CommenterStacey D
I like what Desmond Tutu had to say about forgiveness. I have a hard time forgiving others and forgiving myself. I'm learning but it is such a slow, painful process.
08.30.2008 | Unregistered Commenterdeb
we have to practice forgiveness daily...we need to forgive even before the offence.....forgiveness sets us free....free from the emotional baggage tied to unforgiveness....forgiveness does not let the perp go unpunished it gives us the freedom to move foreward, learn and grow
09.1.2008 | Unregistered Commentercorinna
Your post here really struck me. I have had very little trauma in my life. My parents are wonderful, my siblings wonderful and my husband and children are wonderful. However, we all have our 'things' and mine, while not traumatic, still have bothered me. And I've tried supressing it, forgiving it, ignoring it...blah blah blah. In the end, I really just need to come to terms with what it is I'm feeling. Carrying around those bad feelings wll never do me any good. I like the way you describe forgiveness. No matter how little the fault, it is just difficult to pretend like it doesn't matter.
09.4.2008 | Unregistered CommenterHeather
Your blog is such a pleasure. No family is immune and ours was traumatized when our youngest daughter became involved with drugs. She is back, the drugs are no longer a part of her life and she is an amazing young woman; single parent, intelligent, in college, doing well. The forgiveness issue is huge. My logical side, the grateful side is so pleased that against all odds she turned things around. My emotional side struggles to forgive and forget and as close as we are, it has placed a real strain on our relationship as parent and child. I asked her to read and keep up with your blog with me because it touches on our dilema beautifully. We are a work in progress. . .I can't thank you enough.
09.6.2008 | Unregistered CommenterGayl
Just a short note to thank you for your blog and your courage to share with anyone who drops by. I come and read and cry and then go away for a while and then repeat the process. I having been coming by more often and I think this means I am ready to try forgiveness, to try to be a better person instead of holding onto my indignation. This indignation which fuels me through my exhaustion and drives me through the disappointments had become a part of my essence and I hope I am ready to try to replace it with something better, something braver.

Thank you for the inspiration.
09.9.2008 | Unregistered CommenterNaomi
I'm a new website reader and mother of two (7 & 5yo). Thanks so much for your book and your website--it's already been a wonderful experience.

I just wanted to echo your thoughts about forgiveness and say that one of the most profound "imperfect parenting" experiences i've had has been that of being forgiven by my children when i have made mistakes in my relationship with them.

They are willing to forgive me when i am impatient, unkind, or any of the ways we fail our children because we are human. Their unconditional love has allowed me to heal from some of the shame i have carried about making mistakes. In their eyes, i can finally see myself as a person who is not perfect, yet completely lovable. I do not have to be perfect to be loved by them. And, truly, it is their love i value more than any other. To have it given so freely despite my imperfection is astonishing. We are closer because we make mistakes and forgive together. This is living with your whole heart, as you so wonderfully describe in your blog.

Thank you for your words!
03.14.2009 | Unregistered CommenterJeanne

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