tgif + inspiration interview with jen lee
I started the Inspiration Interview Series because I wanted to know more about the people who share their work with the world and inspire me to practice courage, be creative, and dream big. Jen Lee is one of those people.
Meet Jen Lee!
© Jen LemenJen is an amazing writer and storyteller. And . . . when I say storyteller, I mean storyteller. She crafts these poignant stories then stands on a stage and shares them with a live audience. It's equal parts magic and bravery. I can't even fathom the courage it takes to do that.
I recently watched one of her performances and found myself moved to tears. As the oldest of four children, Jen's story, Anxiety, was a revelation.
I'm so excited to be able to share this with you! It was performed live at The Moth Story Slam in NYC. Please sit down, grab a cup of tea, and enjoy!
Before you start - they cut off the very first line and last line. The first line is, "As an oldest child..." The last line is, "the whole world seems to be made of china, and the people in it of some frail, fragile glass."
Fortunes
In addition to her storytelling career, Jen has written a powerful new book titled, Fortunes.
Here's how Jen Lee describes her new work:
"There's a way that our creative work often communicates more than we know. We set out to tell the story we're in, and the part of our mind that already knows how the story ends slips in a few clues when we're not looking. Fortunes pays homage to this phenomenon. What is the story you are living in? How does it end? The clarity to see is good fortune, indeed."
I've read this small, pocket book over and over. There's something special about the combination of potent words and photos inside a small book that fits in your purse!
Inspiration Interview
Here is my interview with the lovely Jen Lee. I came up with this standard format for the Inspiration Series after thinking, "What do I want to know about people?"
I want to know about their humanity, their ordinary-ness, their pjs.
Enjoy!
What is your writing process?
I often write with a specific person in mind, letting her way of being or her work inspire me, or answering a question she is asking. I like to write pieces as gifts for friends. Other times I write to make sense of my experiences, or to bear witness to them.
I am fortunate to write inside my experience of friendship and community (even a long-distance one). So much fullness and depth comes from the journey I share with my friends, and the companionship I have with them on the way. That context is formative for all my writing--even when the subject is me, they provide the foundation of love and acceptance I need to take risks and tell hard truths.
How would you characterize your relationship with writing?
This is a hard question. We have a complicated relationship--writing and I. In fact, it's tempting to bullshit something on this one that sounds good or simple, but I'm trying to resist doing that. Writing helps me manage my mental wellness in a way that's difficult to explain. Perhaps because it helps me weave my experiences into a narrative that helps it all make sense to a part of my mind that needs that.
But I also feel like it's inextricably linked to my soul work. It's a discipline that keeps my value for authenticity in the foreground. I have a shadow side that believes that pretending everything is perfect (including herself and her life) will win her some imaginary competition. She's a liar and a fake, and writing is the weapon I wield to keep the wheel out of her controlling hands. It's like a daily ritual that keeps me true, as I examine the state of my life and my heart and do my best to tell the truth about them. The lies are more glaring in black and white, and having a point-of-view that you're completely bullshitting doesn't usually sell to your audience. Part of how I faked things for so long was by staying silent and hiding the pieces that I was struggling with or failing altogether. Writing my life keeps it all out in the light--there are fewer dark corners in which secrets can hide.
What are your greatest creative inspirations? Good storytellers and their tales are my bread and butter. People who really let themselves be seen. Spending time in nature. And love. Always love.
What are your greatest creative barriers? Perfectionism, worrying overly much about "doing it right" or pleasing people can all shut me down. Fatigue and too much work without play can also shut down the flow for me.
Truth-telling is a vulnerable and sacred process for most of us. How do you stay honest in your writing and story-telling? I do my best to represent each person's perspective and point-of-view, and if no one comes out as a clear hero or a clear villain, I've done that well. Almost everyone's stories are sympathetic when you hear them from his or her perspective, and everyone has blind spots, too. I try to "tell one on myself" as often as possible, I look for things I can confess to, things I can drag from the shadow into an examined light. The things that most frighten me are the ones that stay hidden or in the dark, like monsters under the bed. As frightening as truth-telling is, staying silent sometimes scares me even more.
How do you manage your life (family, partners, children, friends, etc.) when you are writing?
I have a scheduled time to write for several hours early on weekday mornings. It helps me be present with my husband and the girls the rest of the day when I've had a chance to get some words out, and I know when my next time to do so is coming. My mind wanders back at times, and I write more during nap time or after the girls' bedtime if I'm near the end of a big project, but knowing when my next opportunity is coming (and that it is coming, for sure) keeps me from chomping at the bit too hard.
Aside from that, I keep the rest of my life very simple. We keep commitments and scheduled events to a minimum. We have a routine, but we try to maximize rest and play.
Now, for some fun!
From James Lipton, host of Inside the Actor’s Studio
What is your favorite word? lovely
What is your least favorite word? It's a vulgar word that starts with a "c". I can't even write it--sorry!
What sound or noise do you love? the chatter of children just learning to speak
What sound or noise do you hate? cars crashing into each other
What is your favorite curse word? F--udge! (In case my relatives are reading this.)
From JL’s Uncle Jessie Meme
A song/band/type of music you'd risk wreck & injury to turn off when it comes on the radio? "Mamas, Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Chipmunks" by Alvin & the Chipmunks.
Best show on television? Glee. I'm saying it already.
Favorite movie? I'm gonna go with "Away We Go", directed by Sam Mendes.
Favorite room in your house? It's a spot--the windowsill in my kitchen.
Best concert? I haven't been to many, but The Dave Matthews Band at Fulsom Field in Boulder was pretty great.
Brass or strings? Brass, if it's jazz.
If you could have anything put on a t-shirt what would it be? I don't know. I'm pretty bitter that "Make Love, Not Horcruxes" is already taken.
The best part about being your age? The feeling that my body finally caught up to my soul, which has felt like a 30-something since I was about 8.
Favorite Girl Scout cookie? Thin mints, yo!
Poker or gin or bridge? poker
Shower or bath? BATH
Favorite pajamas? tank top and girl short undies
Nightmare job? Loading the trash trucks. SO thankful for those guys.
A talent you wish you had? I should probably keep that between me and my husband.
Dream vacation? A Mediterranean cruise is on my list.
What’s on your nightstand? "My Ántonia" by Willa Cather, something by Jennifer Weiner because my friend, Brené, said she's good, and "Polaroid Stories" by Irène Nam are at the top of a two-foot stack.
From the famous “Weird Things” blogoshpere meme
Tell us 3 weird things about you:
1. I have a white food phobia dating back to a traumatic experience with mayonnaise as a child.
2. I compulsively obsess about my hair being frizzy and worry that I look like Carrot Top every day.
3. My husband says I have a "figure of speech impediment". I'm always butchering popular sayings, or misusing words or phrases. ("Six to one and half a dozen to your brother.")
From Smith Magazine’s Not Quite What I Was Planning: Six Word Memoirs from Writers Famous and Obscure
A six-word memoir that captures your life as an artist OR your art life:
Writing like crazy kept her sane.
We are giving away two copies of Jen Lee's Fortunes. All you have to do to win is leave a comment answering the following questions (before Monday):
Who/what are you trusting today?
Who/what are you grateful for today?
Who/what is inspiring you today?
Here's mine:
Today I trust in the power of story. I really believe that stories will change the world.
I'm grateful for my work. I love what I do and I do what I love. I'm incredibly lucky.
I'm inspired by Jen Lee.
Have a great Labor Day weekend! Leave your TGIF comment before Monday evening. I'll announce a winner Monday night.
Congrats to Tracy G. and Kate (I can't whistle)! You both won copies of Jen's new book!
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Who/what are you grateful for today? lots of things, healthy..growing kids! A wonderful reflexology buisness, starting up a positive living website soon!!! AND for some amazing friends in my life! Where would be without those??
Who/what is inspiring you today? The full moon. I'm looking at it as I type! The universe is so powerful and tonight the sky is so beautiful!!!
Loved reading about Jen! Thanks for sharing her :)
my TGIF today is on my website http://www.kirkville-acreage.blogspot.com
Thanks for interviewing Jen lee, she is inspiring and so are you!
Myself, to lead and make things happen.
Who/what are you grateful for today?
A long weekend with downtime for me and the one I love.
Who/what is inspiring you today?
Maps, locally-grown cantaloupe, and instant film for my Mio camera.
Who/what are you trusting today? I am trusting that my dreams will come true and the universe is watching out for me.
Who/what are you grateful for today? I am grateful for my home, for being in a place i love and feel comfortable in.
Who/what is inspiring you today? Art is inspiring me today. Knowing I can just sit and do it and not have to judge myself so much.
Thank you so much Jen for telling that story and your musings on it.
Who/what are you grateful for today? I am grateful for the friends who have heard about my dream and have all said - I am in - what can I do to help?
Who/what is inspiring you today? Faith is inspiring me today. Trusting that dreaming big is mine to claim.
I loved the interview and video with Jen. She is wonderfully inspiring.
I'm grateful for an incredibly supportive husband and kids
I'm inspired by the courageous women I know who share their stories
I'm grateful for an incredibly supportive husband and kids
I'm inspired by the courageous women I know who share their stories
I am grateful for the online community I have become apart of. On days when residency gets the best of me I can live vicariously through others travels and adventures! On days when I seek inspiration I find inspiration and on days when I am in search of peace I find solace.
I am inspired by this video (http://tinyurl.com/lo77hr). It makes me reflect on the value of each human beings life. Each being of equal importance, but so many in this world without a voice.
I am grateful for the supportive friends in my life today and always
Women who use their voice and use it well even if they are afraid
Who/what are you grateful for today? I am grateful for the spirit of a friend no longer in this life - she has never left me and has been gently guiding me and holding me close as I follow the path before me.
Who/what is inspiring you today? I am forever inspired by the old soul that is my daughter and best friend and grateful for her gentle lessons in my life.
I am so grateful for the beautiful weather and for having the courage to be authentic. I am also grateful to my fiance because damned, if he ain't something else...going to bat for me and encouraging me!
I am inspired by the ladies in my new Artists Way group. They are incredible women.
Have a great weekend!
Who/what are you grateful for today? shoulder rubs
Who/what is inspiring you today? Jen Lee, Jen Gray, Andrea Scher, Jen Lemen - lots of Jen's - maybe I'll be one someday as well!
I am grateful for the silence in my house, and the hot water of a long shower.
I am inspired by a newly cleaned back porch, dead spring plants tossed, empty planters and pots awaiting the colors of autumn. What possibilities!
Today I am grateful for chances taken. This applies to so many areas of my life right now, areas where I've stepped out onto a limb a bit farther than I might have ordinarily been comfortable and areas in which that little bit of risk-taking has resulted in things for which I am deeply grateful. I'm sitting here looking at two of those chances at the moment- my boy cat and my beautiful dog, both of whom were rescues, both of whom I had to travel to a neighboring state to get.
Today I am inspired by Brene's friend Jen Lee. She asks a beautiful question with, "What is the story you are living in?" That's some wonderful food for thought. What is the story you are living in?
Who/what are you trusting today? Myself... to be seen for ME!
Who/what are you grateful for today? The blue medium point ink pen I've been doodling and dreaming in my notebook with.
Who/what is inspiring you today? I'm feeling pretty inspired by possibility and dreams today.
Much love to you! Have a great holiday weekend!
Carmen
Tonight, I'm grateful for healthy siblings and parents, especially in the wake of so many tragedies at home.
Tonight, I'm inspired by my roommate. Her carefree spirit reminds me to relax.
I'm grateful to have found an extremely significant someone who was lost to me for far too long. It feels like a miracle.
I'm inspired by the sheer possibilities of dreams in my life.
I am grateful that I am a mother.
I am inspired my husband working hard to achieve his dream of Pixar.
I'm grateful that I didn't have to cut the hedges myself!
I'm inspired by the spring weather and all the newness I see around me (lambs, buds, bright grass).
I'm grateful for dear friends
and I'm inspired by this wonderful blog!
I am grateful for my son who reminds me regularly to enjoy everything, and I mean everything!
I am inspired by reading this blog and the many others I've recently found that let me know I am not alone.
Thanks so much, I enjoyed listening to Jen!
Today...
I am trusting that my massive 'to do' list before the kids start school on Tuesday will get done. (I am a new'ish' teacher - and this is my first year teaching for the full year... my first "first day"). I am trusting that I will find some breathing room amongst all of the 'stuff' this weekend, too.
I am grateful for my creativity - for my writing... being able to articulate tough truths through writing has proven time and time again to be my saving grace.
I am truly inspired by my students this year. I met one boy this week (he has Autism and came for a pre-first day introduction to grade 4 and a new teacher). I am inspired by his transformation over the course of a single hour... from his silent yet very powerful portrayal of "I DON'T want to be here" to excited, 'ready to do this' comments like: "Do we have to leave now? I want to go back to the classroom again."
It's going to be a good school year :)
Who/what are you trusting today? That I will find a next good step for myself.
Who/what are you grateful for today? I am grateful for everyone who is brave enough to share their stories.
Who/what is inspiring you today? Beautiful picture books!
I'm grateful for some down time with my family this weekend - and for a therapeutic relationship with someone who is able to see into the depths of my soul.
I'm inspired by Jen's courage to put it all out there and talk about the process of writing so honestly.
Great interview!
I'm grateful for my FAMILY
I'm inspired by FREEDOM
i am trusting that i can truly live my mondo beyondo dreams.
i am grateful for the mb comment you shared with me, brené (it means everything to me to be seen and understood...gracias).
i too am wildly inspired by jen lee, her stories and the interview you shared (thank you, brené).
I am grateful (so grateful) to have this unique opportunity
I am inspired by those who balance passion and conviction with reverence and respect for all.
Who/what are you grateful for today? I am grateful that I am a social worker and that I get to do what I love everyday. I am grateful that I have started to learn the art and importance of following my bliss.
Who/what is inspiring you today?
The families of my patients with terminal illness, who look past their own feelinsg of grief and choose hospice for their loved one. It takes a great deal of selflessness tol ook past ones desire to do everything humanly possible to keep the person that they love around for as long as possible and to see that the quality of a person's life as they enter that last transition is more important than the quantity. My heart was both hurting for them and inspired by them at the same time.
Today I am trusting that I can take risks, put myself out there and let myself be seen.
I am grateful for the Mondo Beyondo community and their generosity.
I'm inspired by Jen Lee's voice and her courage.
Always finding inspiring things when I come to your blog Brené - thanks!
Trusting that there is a time for everything and that everything will happen in time
Grateful for the little things that almost go unnoticed but thankfully not
Inspired by the vast, open opportunity that is everyone's - how big we can all be with just some tiny steps
My friends and I have a monthly GirlsNightOut, and it often serves as a storytelling feast/fest:-) But I notice when we "tell one on ourselves", a shadow bit of shaming sometimes happens---not overtly but then again, it doesn't take much. Like someone shares a story, and instead of acknowledging the risk that took place, another person will say, "Wow, that makes me so grateful that I get along with my mother-in-law." KWIM? Other than pulling out my copy of "I Thought It Was Just Me" and announcing, "you're shaming her!" I feel at a loss of how to throw some light on this pattern and make our time together a safer place for sharing stories. Any suggestions?
Today I'm trusting...that I'll have the time I need if I choose right.
I'm grateful for my husband, who encourages me to carve out some time I need.
I'm inspired by other women sharing their stories.
I am grateful for moments of pure joy with my kids. Oh how I wish I could bottle the sounds of a little one's belly laugh.
I am inspired by some friends' faith, while in this dark time of fighting for the health and healing of their son, they are able to courageously share their story of how they see God walking along side them.
I am grateful for friends who allow me into their lives - when they are happy and when they are sad.
I am grateful for the wonderful sense of growth that I have found in a 12-step program and the wonderful, unlimited sense of opportunities I see in front of me -- and for the four rabbits I saw on my walk along Allen Parkway this morning.
I am grateful for the rain and the opportunity for a quiet day at home.
I am inspired this new online community of woman I have found.
Thanks for interview of Jen.
It was good to read more about her. I look forward to you other interviews.
I am reading your book on shame right now and it is challenging me beyond belief.
grateful that right now I have enough
inspired by so many creative writers and photographers in my bloglines list
(including you, Brené...and Jen)
I am grateful for Dr. Lawrence Krane for his belief in me and for saving my life when no one else could. I am forever grateful to you.
I am inspired by my 2 children (age 1 and 3) who missed their mommy, but were little troopers. They are the reason I never gave up. And by my wonderful husband who sat by my side through it all, never really letting me know how bad it was. I hope one day I can be there for him like he was for me.
So, today I'm trusting that I'll find time to enjoy all of wonderful things I want to do during this 3-day weekend and I won't fritter it all away:)
I'm soooo grateful for 3 days off with my sweet hubby.
I'm incredibly inspired by the beautiful photos of my nephew meeting his amazing birth mother. Wide smiles all around and tears running down my face.
Who/what are you trusting today?
I'm trusting my intuition and my body's wisdom to lead my yoga classes in a direction that will serve everyone who shows up.
Who/what are you grateful for today?
For a dear, wise friend who looked me in the eye and spoke to me with truth and love yesterday, it brought tears but also new insight. I am grateful.
Who/what is inspiring you today?
The morning sun rising over the ocean, every day the ocean's mood is different - yesterday stormy and cold, today still and glowing pink with warmth - yet the sun rises over it every day without fail.
Who/what are you trusting today? i am trusting that the time to do what i want to do artistically will be found.
Who/what are you grateful for today? i am grateful for my sweet husband!
Who/what is inspiring you today? Jen! i love how she weaves story about her experience, and I am coming to realize that it really is all about the narrative. everyone has a story!
I am trusting in my ability to make the best decision for myself,!made a big one this week
~I am grateful for my beloved who offered to face the desert 100 degree 40% humidity climate and run our weekly chores, so that I might have my time right here
~I am inspired by Jen and her immense bravery to speak her truths publicly.
Namaste,
~Hugs
MB
i'm grateful for the easy going nature of my husband.
i'm inspired by the creative souls in my life that believe enough in themselves to follow their dreams :)
thanks for this post brené!!! i SO enjoyed it :)
Who/what are you trusting today?
the soil...that it will bring forth fruit in so many ways
Who/what are you grateful for today?
My oldest child...a true treasure
Who/what is inspiring you today?
Queen, Greatest Hits
*I am trusting that I am taking care of myself by not being part of another person's view of what friendship is about.
*I am grateful to have 3 days off this weekend to recharge my batteries, renew my soul and revisit myself.
*I am inspired by the cloudy skies today, the soft, rumbling thunder and the desert-scented rain that fell. So much so, that I made three fresh loaves of banana bread.
: )
Velvet Brick
Today I'm trusting that I can hang on to myself - and not lose myself in this relationship again.
I'm grateful for family. They have been so supportive recently.
I'm inspired by stories about people who make a difference and give of themselves.
it is to you that I am grateful, Brene, for introducing me. I've already purchased (and given away - like you cautioned might happen) 2 Fortunes and one Solstice. Thank you for the wonderful interview and video!! Looking forward to more.
Today I am grateful for good books and friendly supermarkets.
Today I am inspired by full moons and peaceful people (and animals).