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Monday
Nov142011

thoughts on penn state

First, let's get the language straight. The very last thing that these brave boys and men need is a nation referring to them as victims. They are heroes and survivors. Words matter. 

Second, I'm not sure that any of us really know what happened and how it happened. But based on my research, I do know this: 

When the culture of an organization mandates that it is more important to protect the reputation of a system and those in power than it is to protect the basic human dignity of individuals, you can be certain that shame is systemic, money drives ethics, and accountability is dead. This is true in corporations, nonprofits, universities, governments, churches, schools, families, and sports programs. If you think back on any major scandal fueled by cover-ups, you'll see this pattern. 

In an organizational culture where respect and the dignity of individuals are held as the highest values, shame and blame don’t work as management styles. There is no leading by fear. Empathy is a valued asset, accountability is an expectation rather than an exception, and the primal human need for belonging is not used as leverage and social control.

We can’t control the behavior of individuals; however, we can cultivate organizational cultures where behaviors are not tolerated and people are held accountable for protecting what matters most: human beings. 

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You nailed it!
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterMel Scholl
So right. And when I read the last sentence in the highlighted paragraph, my first thought was that you could have added 'families' to the list of organizations/systems that often rule by shame, and put outward appearances ahead of basic human dignity.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterKathy Woodman
AGREED!

I think I was adding it while you were commenting. I'm working on a new book right now for families, schools, and organizations - they all have cultures that have to be cultivated to align with our values.
11.14.2011 | Registered CommenterBrené Brown
I agree, you nailed it!
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterJulie Schultz
YES Brene,

Well said, THANK YOU for putting into words what is so basic and true!
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterPatty Sherry
Thanks for this reminder about word choice Brene. I am a current student at Penn State and this week has been TOUGH but also empowering. Not because of Paterno and Spanier getting fired (we at least got THAT right) or the incessant media barrage. Not because of the few angry students who rioted. I feel for them as well. They were angry, hurt, confused... and given no explanation, direction, or outlet for their anger. Please know that in light of the tragedy, the survivors have not gone forgotten (contrary to media reports). The responses of many students and faculty have been heartwarming, swift, and empowering. Healing needs to happen for so many people here, the survivors, the students, and the people of this town. It has been a painful reminder (for me, anyway) of how pervasive the shame of sexual abuse is and how deep it runs. And how insidious power and prestige can be. I only hope that the lessons from this are learned, that laws regrading reporting are changed in PA, and that awareness is raised.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterPia
This right here: "the primal human need for belonging is not used as leverage and social control." With that one sentence, something in my heart broke free. Thank you.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterKnighton
Yes. Nicely stated.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterNatalie V2
“We can’t control the behavior of individuals; however, we can cultivate organizational cultures where behaviors are not tolerated and people are held accountable for protecting what matters most: human beings.” Brene Brown
The Penn State Scandal
I watched hour after hour of ESPN coverage of the information coming from State College, PA. After all, I was born and raised in Pennsylvania and my sister went to Penn State. However, there was a horror as the news became darker and darker. First there was the report that a Grand Jury had indicted a former assistant football coach on charges of molesting a or several young boys. Next was the information that the AD and his boss had been fired. First it was one reporter, then it was three and then it seemed like 10. Matt Millian a famous football player was crying on ESPN live. Next it comes out that a grad assistant had seen a rape taking place in the showers in the football building between this accused and a 10 year old boy involved in a charity run by Jerry Sandusky. He had reported it to Joe Paterno who had been head football coach for 44 years or something, and he had reported it to the AD, but the guy was allowed to keep his keys, presumably to the showers. The message was- don’t do your dirty work in our house, but you can still hang out here.
Somehow it all reminds me of the Tiger Woods story. Here was an icon representing love, family, highest ideals publically who was practicing something entirely opposite in his private life. The reaction of public opinion is as it always is, “Throw the bastards out!” However, what is it that I feel?
The price that we extract from our heroes is that they must be white as the driven snow while in reality each of us is merely human. When our human failings are found out, all the good work that we have done is ignored in light of our failings. Perhaps it is we who drive them to be the antithesis of our god-like qualities as it puts them so far out of balance as humans.
I hope that I can find some empathy for the people who ignored the children whose lives have been changed forever, who will live with conflicting ideas of love and safety and trust forever, who will end up hopefully in the rooms of AA and NA, as they try to erase the memories of abuse which will never go away. I will pray for peace in their lives.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterJackie T
a big BIG amen.
thank you for helping me with my words.
peace.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered Commenterkelly barton
Thank you for your insights.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterMargo
ABSOLUTELY! It's not just scandals and cover-ups...Corporate Bullying is a huge problem. In today's economy employees will tolerate a lot of abuse to have a job. Some organizations use these circumstances to their advantage, and the shame and blame management style runs rampant. It's very sad and hard on the human spirit. Thanks for shedding light on this topic.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterMichelle Andres
I don't understand the issue with "victim". These boys were victims. They were preyed upon by an evil individual. The word "victim" points to the horror of the crime and the criminal. The word "hero" in particular is an attempt to empower people who, as children, had no power. That is the entire, tragic point. Being attacked doesn't make someone a hero, it makes them a victim. I think the word choice is appropriate.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterPete
"Being attacked doesn't make someone a hero, it makes them a victim" - I agree. Coming forward or simply living through it makes them a survivor. Here's the most basic shame finding: No one wants to be defined by the worst thing that ever happened to them or by the worst thing they ever did. "Victim" does that.

The shift from victim to survivor is not about linguistics, it's about healing, transformation, and gaining control over a narrative that you, at one time, had no control over.
11.14.2011 | Registered CommenterBrené Brown
The word victim says you have no choices except to be preyed upon doing nothing. Silence makes a victim out of you, your way of seeing yourself, how society defines someone who has suffered a violent act. I am an incest survivor and for years I said nothing, feeling I had no right, convinced I was somehow at fault and the silence remained. Convinced there was something flawed in ME and that is why it happened and the silence remained. Defining myself as a victim gave me no choices than to act as a victim, the word disempowered as much as the act did. We as a society won't get more children to speak up until we remove the stigma of the word victim from them. Victim makes you helpless to do anything. Lets communicate to our children how worthy they are and how empowered they are making them less likely to ever accept being victimized by anyone ever again but as long as the word victim hangs over them they will continue to be victimized in their relationships, their jobs...
11.14.2011 | Unregistered Commenterann-lee
I love your concise, clear assessment of this, Brene. Thank you for your unwavering stance on shame and human relationships.

I was talking with a friend about this last night and she said, "If something like that had ever happened to me as a kid, I would have instantly assumed it was my fault." And that, folks, is the issue, isn't it? By keeping the dirty little secret, these kids were allowed to believe that it was them who had done something wrong instead of feeling empowered to stand up for themselves. Nobody was giving them the message that they were worthy of protection and honor. I hope they start getting it in spades now.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered Commenterkario
Considering oneself a victim is the meanest trap to be ensnared in ever! Feeling the shame and speaking out anyway is the bravest, most courageous thing the abused will ever do to escape that trap and the horror that surrounds it. My heart goes out to the the individual survivors who decided to set themselves free by coming forward and I pray for their healing to continue.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterJan
Another reason these boys are heroes is because they were willing to courageously speak their truth to the world, they will give voice to others & hopefully save other children from similar experiences. I'm hopeful that through all of this tragedy, there will come healing, there will come stronger penalties, there will come real change. Indeed we must change the system. Hopefully this is the beginning.

Beautiful post, Brene. Thank you.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterKatie
Brene, coming forward is an heroic act, no doubt, and moving on with life is brave as well. I'm (thankfully) not familiar with abuse recovery psychology. I hadn't considered the impact of the word "victim" from the perspective of the abused. Thanks for educating me on it.

Pete
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterPete
Pete - just by having the conversation and bringing these topics into the light, we educate each other.
I'm grateful for your comment and your perspective. Had you not left a comment, I wouldn't have thought through the issue.

I'm always so grateful for the respectful conversations that we can have with each other on this site.
11.14.2011 | Registered CommenterBrené Brown
Brené, beautifully and succinctly said; I love the sentence in bold in particular. My own posts were more focused on the individual, but I really like enlarging the view to the system. Unless you object I'd like to repost that sentence and link back to your article.

Les
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterLes Kertay
Exactly this.

My deepest problem with all of this is that those who *witnessed* something - abuse, inappropriate behaviour, violation, however they saw it, something they *knew* was wrong enough to report to someone in a power-position - did not stop it in the moment it was happening.

The power relationships were (are?) so strongly in place that even when someone walked in the room, their presence did not stop what was happening. What does that say to the boys? It says that no one can stop this. That no one did stop this. That an adult - and to a ten-year-old, a 23-year-old grad student looks like an adult, even if he is still very young and a product of that very culture - can not, or will not, stop what was happening.

Yes, a systemic problem indeed. Thank you for all of your work, your research, your focus on the language we use. Words matter. I am not a victim. But at one time, I was. That is an important distinction. And in a culture that does not value children, they can be victims again. When they have no power, and no one willing to see and protect them, they can be victims.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterJet Harrington
AMEN! Thank you Brene!
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterDonna
Jet, you make very good points. Stanley Milgram did some experiments exploring obedience to authority. In the Milgram experiments regular people committed acts that violated their values when they were coerced by authority figures. Very interesting - our human nature.

I do believe words matter. I like your comment "I am not a victim, but at one time I was." That would indicate now you are a survivor. Stepping forward through the shame, I believe, makes one a hero. What we think of ourselves is the most important opinion of all. Thank you all for the food for thought.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterMichelle
Dear Brene (if I may address you as such!)- Thank you for the post. I just started following you on twitter so I feel blessed to have found your eloquent response to the Penn State horror. As an educator, a life coach for educators and a survivor of a similar experience, I felt compelled to share my story for the first time publically on my blog. If you have a moment, I would be honored if you would read it. The title is Educators, Leaders, Ostriches and Predators. You and your readers can find it at www.coachingforeducationalexcellence.com. Also, if you haven't yet seen the SNL Weekend Update satirical response by the "Devil," I highly recommend it. You can find it on YouTube under "SNL paterno." a true piece of brilliance. Thanks again for sharing your unique gifts with the world.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterEve Ford
I couldn't have put it better myself. Succinct and thoughtful, thanks Brene!
11.14.2011 | Unregistered Commenterteryll
Governments abuse the very people who put them into power; no matter where, it simply happens. I see it happening to the poor, the different, the children, the disabled, the men, the women, those who speak up, you name it.
It comes from the top down, always, and the Milgram experiment suggests that this is unlikely to stop. Very few individuals have the strength or necessary support to challenge such behaviour and who can blame them. The system is corrupted and damaged. We need more of the courageous ones in position of power to model kindness, empathy and ethical behaviour. Then maybe the system (ie: the human race) will finally evolve in a positive direction.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered Commenteronirical
Why is the term victim such a problem only when we talk about rape, sexual assault, child abuse and domestic violence? Why is it only these crimes that make being a victim such a negative thing? Seriously, we don't talk about "survivors" of muggings, bag snatches, armed robbery or hit-and-runs. I think that we, as a society, need to fight the idea that there is something wrong with being a victim of this type of crime, that it makes a person weak somehow, and use the term to denote a lack of power and control over a situation.

I have been a victim of sexual victimisation and domestic violence. I have no problems with the term. In healing from my experiences I have also come to see that I am also a survivor. Frankly I don't think the terms should be mutually exclusive when talking about sexual assault.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterCarz
Thank you Brene for such an insightful post, to Pia for showing us a thoughtful perspective from a Penn State-er, and to Pete for being open to a different viewpoint. I gained a lot from the dialogue.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterLeah
"Victim" degrades. "Survivor" recognizes. "Thriver" empowers. How wonderful when people grow from surviving abuse to thriving, to living full, expansive lives and possibly helping others.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterLaura
Brene,

Thank you for your words. I'm a PhD student and I recently came across this quote from Victor Turner on value-systems within ritualistic societies: "The authority of the elders is absolute, because it represents the absolute, the axiomatic values of society in which are expressed the 'common good' and the common interest."

My undergraduate degree is Penn State and I spent 4 years on the main campus. While I in no way condone the horrific acts and subsequent cover-up (which seems to become bigger and bigger by the moment), it is worth considering how these actions--in a very perverse way--reflect the pevasive influence of aggressive, paternalistic culture in which everything depends upon victory. In such a culture, power--which sources from corporate and media influence--is conferred upon those who can ensure this victory--a victory which depends on the exploitation of weakness and vulnerability. In such a morally-ambivalent atmosphere, a subtle but pernicious bargain is cast where moral coherence is dependent not upon the individual's own sense of right and wrong, but is instead directed upon those trusted elders silently assume the role of ethical plumb-line entire social order.

In my view, students who rioted last week did so because the center of their moral universe (aka Joe Paterno), their very way making sense of the world and themselves, was ejected from the tribe. While the survivor/heroes and what they have endured must be kept foremost in our thoughts, it is also important to recognize that the public airing of these egregious violations represent a perhaps irreparable breakdown of a culture's fundamental paradigm of meaning is made and value is ascribed to individuals and actions.

In short, I don't think there will any getting over this one. As the scandal and its tentacles of moral compromise are revealed to be more deeply entrenched than we may have first assumed, it becomes clearer that this is a wound that will continue to bleed until the community develops a new way of addressing its shadow. Without this, more breakdowns will surely ensue.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterDavid Holzmer
You wrote: "There is no leading by fear."

Edward Abbey said something like that too: "A leader leads from in front, by the power of example. A ruler pushes from behind, by means of the club, the whip, the power of fear."

I'm also reminded of a bumper sticker made by Northern Sun: "Fearful people do stupid things". Even when a leader does motivate people to act from fear, there's no guarantee they'll be pushed in the direction he wants them to move.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterMike Lewinski
oofta. It's all very thick and sad. Thank you for your thoughts and insights.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered Commenteremily
Well put Brene. It seems shame is systemic in this school's athletic department. For 23 years, the Lady Lions Basketball coach, Rene Portland, was allowed to practice shaming and discriminatory behavior against her players. Hopefully something will change. If you haven't seen it, there's an excellent documentary film about Ms. Portland's "Training Rules" - www.trainingrules.com
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterKatie
As a victim, I have plowed into this story and I have compassion for the grad student who witnessed the rape. At first I was angry but I also understand being 25. Today I was thinking back when a neighbor was sleeping with his adopted daughter (literally) after his wife died. I said nothing at 19. I know the shame of wanting things and being molested when they were held out in front of me. Prey. I hope the message of reporting a crime, of speaking out rings through this whole story and helps others.
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterPeggy
When I was 12 1/2 to 15 years old, I was molested by my highly respected 35 year old junior high and theater arts teacher. I've admitted to the abuse to a few of the men in my life (but NEVER to my family) and those men, whose honesty hurt, thought that any person of my age at the time, must have wanted the sex. Looking back, I probably did like the attention, but does anyone that age that is weak and who doesn't have the support of their family, deserve to have someone in authority touch them or have sex with them???? Dear God, I was not much older than 12! Did I really understand???? Years later, I met someone from my school that talked about the teacher sticking his tongue down her throat too! I believe that he is still a teacher-do I go ahead and let everyone know his "weakness" for young girls? What a mess.. I am soooo sorry for these men that have endured what they have with their accuser. NO ONE deserves it! I am not a victim! I survived a man that is a pathetic mess! I pray that these young men will rise above it and move on too!
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterMeghan
Exactly!
11.14.2011 | Unregistered Commenterkelly
Thank You!
11.14.2011 | Unregistered CommenterPat Mc
Thank you so much for your analysis and powerful words. You are right - words do matter. And can make a difference.
As an Executive Director in the non-profit sector I am inspired by your words. I will continue to try to use my skills and energy to cultivate an organizational culture that holds the respect and dignity of individuals as paramount.
11.15.2011 | Unregistered CommenterKathryn Hill
I can relate to being put in very similar situation and it devistated my biz..I use to own a popular bar and grill in Milwaukee.here's the story, a customer forgot his wallet at home and left his cell phone as a messure of good faith that he would return to pay his tab.my bartender went on his cell to see if he could find a name and address just in case he was not to return.well he discoverd all shorts of extremely graphic/disturbing child porn. I happen to be on vacation for the first time in 3years with my family.I got a phone call around 1200am(2am milwaukee time) while I'm walking the Vegas strip.it instantly wrecked my trip knowing I was now responsible to deal with something nobody wants to deal with, so disgusting..Notified my staff to call police when this guy came back for his phone and they did the police were waiting for him the parking lot after he paid his tab.some how the media got wind of it and it was blasted all over the local news for a few weeks.you think it would have been positive that it would of helped biz being the hero but it didn't.No body wants to hang out at a place were a pederass hangs out.thats my story-Andy
11.15.2011 | Unregistered CommenterA.R.
Thank you Brene. I couldn't agree more with the importance of semantics in this situation. This is the best post (including my own) I've read on this entire debacle.
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11.15.2011 | Unregistered Commenterbarbara
Brene,
When a system is made up of folks who are more worried about their position in the system than in the supposed values of the system, then it may be time to get a new system! I think college athletics is about personal acheivement, but it's also about trust and integrity - sportsmanship if you will. the members of this system forgot about the trust and integrity part and closed ranks to protect "acheivment". Time to think about a new system- one that focuses on a whole student, not just points and yards and trophies.
11.15.2011 | Unregistered CommenterTracey
Here's to moving forward in a way that unites rather than divides. Here's to supportive adults in the lives of children, helping them to find their voice. Here's to all those who are actively working to create a culture that supports and honors those who bravely step forward to speak their truth.
Here's to those holding light in these dark situations.
Brene, your words help others find theirs. Thank you.
11.15.2011 | Unregistered CommenterAnna
I’m sorry, but abuse victims are genuine victims until they can do their recovery work, and then they become survivors. I appreciate your sentiment, but I have worked with many abuse victims in their recovery, and glossing over that emotional reality does not help them, no matter how well intended.

Also, I have yet to work with a sex abuse victim who I would call a hero until they have confronted their abuser and taken their power back. Sex abuse shatters a person’s boundaries at a complex level that renders them unable to trust their own emotional perceptions. That is not heroic – it is tragic.

The depth of grief work that lies at the level of recovering from being genuinely victimized is complex and not served by the kind of well-intended idealization you are offering by trying to minimize the real victimization these boys have experienced. They became prey to a sexual predator without a healthy conscience. That is a very complex experience. They are victims of a deep violation of their boundaries.

That being true, boundary recovery requires deep self-validation skills that bring a person’s lost self-hood back into focus, and that journey takes time.

No offense, but I have been doing abuse recovery work for 21 years, and yes, words matter. Being a survivor is something you create within yourself after you rebuild your world.

Being a hero means getting yourself back out into your world, your community, recovering from being abused and now able to be open-hearted, making a difference in the lives of all of those around you. And it really means that you no longer hurt those around you who love you, which all sex-abuse victims do until they really come into their recovery and do their grief work.

I know you mean well, but there’s more to what these sex abuse victims will go through and need in their recovery than to have someone cheerleading them by saying,”You are not a victim – you are a hero and a survivor.”
11.16.2011 | Unregistered CommenterGeoff Brandenburg
Geoff,

First, I appreciate the work you're doing in this very difficult area. Thank you for that.

Second, I disagree. Having spent years working in domestic violence and sexual assault, and the past decade interviewing hundreds of survivors of sexual abuse, I absolutely disagree with this: "I have yet to work with a sex abuse victim who I would call a hero until they have confronted their abuser..." You can choose to set up requirements for that language if you choose; however, there are many, many individuals who will never have that opportunity and/or make the mindful choice not to confront their perpetrator. Recovery is never about the perpetrator. His or her participation, cooperation, or involvement (even if it's simply a confrontation) is not necessary for healing and I think it's dangerous to set it up that way.

As far as, "victims are victims until they do their recovery work" - that is certainly one model and clearly your personal prerequisite. But I believe it's fair to say that it's only one of many effective models and there are countless professionals doing this work who don't subscribe to that theory.

Last, I welcome disagreement and debate. I always have and I always will. But please don't confuse what I write with "meaning well" and "sentimentality" and don't confuse my opinions with cheerleading - that's fundamentally disrespectful.
11.16.2011 | Registered CommenterBrené Brown
I appreciate this post, Brené. Perhaps because I have abuse in my background, I tend to look at this unfolding story in a little broader way. If the stats are even close to accurate, some of the board of trustees have been abused. Some of the coaching staff have too. The kids who rioted, the kids who didn't. The reporters covering the story. The investigators. Up to 1 in 6 men in this situation have been abused. I doubt many of them have sought help, as there remains such a thick blanket of shame over this. This, to me, is the real tragedy here. There are layers of abuse, and even after this investigation is completed, there will still be people living in pain... or no longer living, because they couldn't handle the pain.
11.16.2011 | Unregistered CommenterErin Wilson
Brene,
I did not do a service to your and my readers when I only said "I have yet to work with a sex abuse victim who I would call a hero until they have confronted their abuser."

What I should have added was, "It is not necessary to actually confront your abuser in person. There are role play techniques I use that allow the victim to achieve the healing release of confrontation without having to involve the perpetrator.And in many cases, it not at all advisable to do so." So I apologize to you and your readers for speaking in shorthand. And no, I am not setting it up that the perpetrator has to be involved in the victim's recovery. Not in the least.

That said, victimization is a complex emotional and neurological experience that requires a deep decompression and a real post-traumatic series of healing stages. When clients continue to act out the violation and the shock that remains trapped in their bodies, the moment of victimization still has a lot of control over their behavior and emotional perceptions. When a person has achieved significant freedom from triggered emotions in their recovery and can function well in relationships, they have become a survivor. And in my experience, that never happens until they have confronted their abuser in whatever way is appropriate and most useful for them, because only in that ritual do they begin to reclaim their conscious control of their boundaries.

So I again apologize for my lack of complete clarity in what I said, and through that you've come to an incorrect conclusion about my healing approach. I hope what I've explained clears that up.


You said, "As far as, "victims are victims until they do their recovery work" - that is certainly one model and clearly your personal prerequisite. But I believe it's fair to say that it's only one of many effective models and there are countless professionals doing this work who don't subscribe to that theory."

I would like you to explain for me and your readers about how victims stop being victims – with all of the emotional and neurological layers that are created through being abused – without doing their recovery work. What other professional models are you referring to? I honestly have yet to hear about a valid therapeutic approach that doesn't recognize the need for abuse victims to do their recovery work in order to stop feeling like victims.

I have certainly encountered many examples of what I call "bypass healing" techniques that attempt to avoid emotional confrontation or acknowledging the victim experience – for example, I have seen many examples of NLP that go in that direction over the years, and some recent Cognitive Behavioral Therapy strategies that minimize the victim experience – but I have worked with too many clients who tried that route and finally accepted that real recovery was their only hope.

As far as my critique of your entire approach in the first paragraph of your post – and my conclusion that you are essentially cheerleading abuse victims past feeling like victims without offering any substantial healing strategies in this post – I remain steadfast in my concerns about your strategy and ideas. I am sorry if that seems disrespectful to you, but your first paragraph seems fundamentally disrespectful to the complex reality of being an abuse victim.

I have worked with far too many abuse clients who have been told – often by well-meaning healers without enough experience – that they should not feel like victims, or that it is not okay to acknowledge the reality of being victimized in the abuse. Whether it was your intention or not – because you haven't actually defined in this blog post what your healing approach to sex abuse really is – your message could be easily taken to discourage real abuse victims from feeling like their emotions are legitimate.

The last thing, from my years of healing work with clients, that the victims in the Penn State situation need is someone telling them prematurely, before they have done their recovery work, that they are not victims but rather heroes and survivors. I simply, and absolutely, do not agree with what you said.

As I hope I made clear in my post, being a survivor and a hero is something you create through doing the hard recovery work that creates that real internal shift from victim to survivor. After thousands and thousands of hours in the deep grief stages with clients as they reach those goals, I disagree with you in honor of the people I have seen recover, because many of them had someone try to talk them out of and past their emotions through the very language shift you are presenting in this blog post, and in the long run it only made their recovery harder.
11.17.2011 | Unregistered CommenterGeoff Brandenburg
Brene,
I need to also say that I am in total agreement with the rest of your blog post. Institutionalized shame is a profound force of dysfunction in our culture, and the desensitization that results from this allows very unhealthy things to happen.

Now that I have spoken my heart to you, I guess that what you are trying to say in that first paragraph is that the word "victim" carries shame with it, and that these kids have nothing to be ashamed of. Please correct me if I am wrong, because I do want to try to understand you reasons for writing this post. When I said that you mean well, I meant it – it is clear you have a good heart, a strong sense of integrity and purpose, and that you are deeply devoted to what you do.

Thank you also for doing what you do. The entire community of people who are healing needs support from any directions and dimensions.
11.17.2011 | Unregistered CommenterGeoff Brandenburg
Your statement in bold.....if I could stand in front of you RIGHT now...

You would be getting a standing ovation....
11.17.2011 | Unregistered CommenterJakki
As a victim of many years of sexual abuse, I understand and am grateful for the truths expressed by both Geoff and Brene. Ive spent my years in therapy and many years thereafter 'doing my work'. I am in a good place now. I will also say I have not found a voice with whom I resonated more, than than that of Brene's. I find her point of view to be grounded in both research and a fundamental love and caring for the shame experience we all carry. The Penn State story has wrenched me to the foundation of my soul. And I say Brene nailed it. God Bless those boys, now men. Thank you, Brene.
11.17.2011 | Unregistered CommenterScott

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